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Serega Just Serega2020-05-02 23:00:33
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Serega Just Serega, 2020-05-02 23:00:33

How to proceed? Freelance or office?

Hello! Graduated from Artem Islamov's courses in web development. Good knowledge of html, js, css and php.

The problem is that I can’t find a job, I sent a bunch of resumes to companies and either they just ignore me or write only some offices and then they require test tasks.
I was also at two interviews, where they were forced to solve some problems with arrays and what else. As if they would somehow help me with my work.

As a result, I came to the conclusion that working for my uncle was not an option. Tell me on which exchanges you can earn at least 70k per month?

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GavriKos, 2020-05-02
@SeregaProsto

Graduated from Artem Islamov's courses in web development. Good knowledge of html, js, css and php.

Do not know. Believe me. Without experience, you know nothing.
The problem is that I can’t find a job, I sent a bunch of resumes to companies and either they just ignore me or write only some offices and then they require test tasks.

Well, do the test, what's the problem?
I was also at two interviews, where they were forced to solve some problems with arrays and what else. As if they would somehow help me with my work.

Well, if you came to the cleaning service, it's really strange why you were asked about arrays.
I hope this question is trolling

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archelon, 2020-05-02
@archelon

Tell me on which exchanges you can earn at least 70k per month?

On any. On any exchanges, you can earn 70 and 700 k per month.
Whether you can is another question.

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Sergey Suntsev, 2020-05-03
@GreyCrew

Well, Sergey ....
I don’t know who Artem Islamov is, but obviously he knows how to make noodles.
Tests should not be treated as something bad. This is quite a normal phenomenon, being a trainee, jun, middle, even seniors do them. While doing the task, you build up your skills. Plus, a normal office will ask you to do a task close to their current work. they will be asked to use the technologies they use.
The programmer must be able to work with any data structures. Arrays, objects, functions, lists, trees, etc. All this must be known. It is clear that, for example, on the web, it is not often necessary to form trees, but in the animation of the same one on the canvas, it can come in handy, or in the nested list of store products. Therefore, without knowing arrays, what can we talk about with you?
And without practical experience and large projects in the portfolio, you should not expect that you will be hired as a junior, maximum an intern, and their prices are 15-25k in millions and 25-30k in DC.
On exchanges with the experience of an intern at least 70k per month, it is quite possible to earn on https://www.upwork.com
But this is provided that Artem Islamov also taught you how to cook noodles + knowledge of English.
After a couple of years of hard work and skill development, you can go to https://www.toptal.com.

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qfake, 2020-05-03
@qfake

I was also at two interviews, where they were forced to solve some problems with arrays and what else. As if they would somehow help me with my work.

If you KNOW php WELL, then you have an understanding that solving problems with arrays will help you a lot in your work. I'm just curious, is there anyone here who writes in php and has not seen arrays? Respond.
Many companies send test ones, this is normal. The easiest way to understand what you are is to look at your code. If there is a problem with the test, then there is a possibility that you will not be able to work in this company.
In general, the question looks like a joke, to be honest)
You demonstrate difficulties in showing your skills in practice, but you want employers to hunt for you and pay you not as an intern.
GavriKosspeaks the truth, without experience you don't know anything. But often understanding comes only when everything around is on fire, and you sit with the thought that you were not taught this in the courses ..

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Andrew Nodermann, 2020-05-03
@Lucian

Make a couple of test projects, just with knowledge, no one needs you. I give you a concise formula for the start, then it's up to you to decide how to be.
1. Go to the freelance exchange
2. Find a task that you like and that you can complete, do not write to the customer
3. Try to do what is written in the task
4. When you complete the project, repeat from step 1 until you are sure that you can complete the real task Then you can start freelancing.

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Nikita, 2020-05-02
@jkotkot

The real problem is unrealistic and grossly inflated expectations. While the author has just completed the courses, then he is a nobody and there is no way to call him. The price after the completion of PHP courses and other things is 30k rubles on a market day (in Moscow, 50-60k).
Moreover, now there is a crisis and qualified people are losing their jobs and there are a lot of hungry candidates. So no one will seriously look at green junes who have not been shot at. Especially with such an infernal chsv. Actually, the lack of understanding of why to solve problems with arrays suggests that the author does not know about PHP or js in any way.
In the office, they are much more tolerant of newcomers, they can take someone to grow up there. And on hrelanse be able to do things. Well, there are also test tasks for the green ones.
So if the author came to the conclusion that working for an uncle is not an option, then hellenance is even more not an option for him.
Well, or you need to significantly lower the bar of expectations.

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