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vassa0072020-12-30 23:46:21
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vassa007, 2020-12-30 23:46:21

How to find out the location of a mobile subscriber?

Извечный вопрос.
Меня настигла беда.
Преступники для выкупа оставили номер мобильного для связи.
Созвонился , они требуют выкуп путем пополнения их номера мобильного.
Мусора, гандоны, говорят что нечего сделать немогут.
Оператору связи звоню, дивчина из кол-центра тоже мычить как корова и в милицию посылает.
А как на самом деле можно найти преступника.
Я понимаю что его можно зафиксировать по "антенам" связи, и путем нехитрых манипуляций определить место.
Кто знает как это происходит на самом деле.
Просьба неписать бессмысленные комметарии типа некоторых.
вот номер 0663936561
Я не прошу найти его, мне интересно как и кто это делает.
я НЕ хоЧу и не собираюсь давать кому-нибудь

по щам

- я прошу помощи у тостера , чтобы дали грамотный ответ, с правильными терминами КАК И КЕМ осуществляется поиск абонента.
Какие документы должен подготовить следователь для запроса к оператору мобсети и как быстро оператор отреагирует на запрос.

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Jairman, 2020-12-30
@Jairman

Это платные услуги, полазь по форумам даркнета, там много предложений)
Если нужен город, то это можно бесплатно сделать, таких сайтов в гугле много

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Karpion, 2020-12-31
@Karpion

It makes sense to turn to the chiefs of those cops who refuse to look for criminals.
The coordinates of the mobile phone are determined by which towers and which antennas on the towers (each tower has several antennas directed in different directions) receive a signal from this mobile phone. The very fact of the presence of a signal - allows you to determine the site, limited by the towers; the size of the site depends on how tightly this place is studded with towers. By the ratio of signal intensity - the place is determined even more accurately, in successful cases, the error can be reduced up to several meters.
True, criminals are also not born with a bast. For example, you can leave your smartphone somewhere and use it as a proxy, while being anywhere. A program is installed on the smartphone that receives a call via the Internet, and itself calls via a cellular connection and “closes” two conversations.
The call center girl is right about that - she has no right to release this information without a warrant from the police.
PS: I'm sorry...

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BasiC2k, 2020-12-31
@BasiC2k

You, as an individual, do not have the right by law to carry out operational-search measures to determine the identity and location of the person who has taken possession of your property.
The operator also does not carry out ORM, he is only obliged to provide data on the location of the subscriber to the authorized bodies.
The authorized bodies (like the police) represented by the investigator must make a request to the operator, but as practice has developed, such requests are made in the following cases:
a) when a criminal case is opened;
b) if the criminal offense is of a socially dangerous nature or public outcry.
As a rule, requests are not made for crimes of a property nature.
To send a request, the investigator needs to get the sanction of the leadership, plus - to open a criminal case. In pursuit of doing nothing/other things, it is easier for the investigator to let the case go "on the brakes" - that is, do nothing, and after a while close the case with the wording "the person who committed the crime has not been identified" or simply persuade/persuade you to close the criminal case. In short, the investigator has a lot of work, and your case is not so important.
Therefore, your strategy of behavior is to force the investigator to work correctly. If possible, get acquainted with the materials of the case as often as possible and complain, complain, complain. Head + prosecutor's office. It is natural to complain about actual violations - deadlines were missed / explanations were not taken, etc. What and when an investigator should do - read in the Code of Criminal Procedure.

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Dimonchik, 2020-12-31
@dimonchik2013

what a pathos
, well, I got into a divorce from Avito / OLH - I got experience, the holidays will end - you will forget
in prehistoric times, an investigator for serious cases (robbery, murder) did it - there was a hemorrhage with operators, there were no laws,
now everything is easier - the map is ready online (there is bureaucracy, yes - access is only if there is a case), they sell this and other requests (in bank, in webmoney, in Potok, wherever you want) everything is also - from a lieutenant, but not with a schoolboy, but with lawyers: a lawyer will not hand over, will not set you up (they will stop working with him - there will be no bread)
, you break a piggy bank, you go to dad, he to a familiar lawyer, he to a solver and everyone will find it, if the piggy bank is large,
if it is very large, they will also punish

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Lutra, 2020-01-09
@Lutra90

If it's a small question, don't. Well divorced, it happens.
Google what article on your question and go to the police with it. The accepted application (or rather the stamp with the acceptance of the application) must be kept for yourself. All refusals must be accepted in writing. And these documents to the prosecutor's office. If there is a corpus delicti, they will stir. But this way you can stir up the hive. (if you are in Russia)
To find something yourself, you can dig on the darknet. The same pop darkmoney is available without TOR.

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