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itrabotnik2011-12-25 13:18:07
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itrabotnik, 2011-12-25 13:18:07

How to choose the right SLR?

Hello everyone
. I understand that the issue has been raised many times, but since the last time, it seems that time has passed and the situation on the market could change.
The wife wanted to take a SLR instead of a soap dish, which dies a death of the brave.
Many advised to take Canon, someone Nikon. From Nikona, the D90 was not a bad model, but yesterday we were at an event and we managed to hold the Canon EOS 500D in our hands, the possibilities were impressive.
There may be other models that you would suggest purchasing. Willing to spend around $1000 ±.
Another question is whether to buy immediately with KIT'om or separately a lens ... etc. etc. I must admit right away that I don’t google in this matter, while I’m just reading, because my wife will break my brain :)
For answers, as always, + are provided.
I hope for understanding and you won’t beat the whole forest hard in the stomach :)
UPD:
Thanks to everyone who unsubscribed, it was very nice to get accurate answers and advice, like what and how.
We decided to stop at the 500D-600D models, if we can take it with a double whale.
Guys, it's very nice that they responded and answered my request advectively;)
ps. I hope no one forgot the pluses;)

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Zhbert, 2011-12-26
@Zhbert

About 3-4 months ago I also chose a DSLR, after reading a bunch of reviews and asking on the forums, the choice fell on the Nikon D5100. I felt it in the store, I liked it. But then I still didn’t take it, because I realized that anyway I’ll put it on the shelf later and won’t take pictures of anything, so it’s not worth spending money.

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Ilya Erin, 2011-12-25
@ilyaerin

If you only need home shooting, then I can advise you to look towards mirrorless cameras. They will be cheaper and easier to use, in terms of quality for home photos you will hardly notice a difference with a cerkalka. I work as a photographer and have a fairly large set of equipment. But for recreation, I think to take some small SLR camera with two fixes, something like 16 and 85mm. It will be easier, it fits easily into your pocket, and you won’t be able to carry equipment worth several hundred thousand with you on vacation ...

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Andrey, 2011-12-25
@AndreyMorozov

Nikon D5100 (body) + lens, for example:
Tamron AF 18-270mm F / 3.5-6.3 Di II VC LD Aspherical (IF) Macro Nikon F (station wagon)
I bought Nikon D5100, whale, I realized that the whale lens is garbage and bought telephoto Tamron SP AF 70-300mm F / 4.0-5.6 Di VC USD Nikon F
Satisfied. The device is good, excellent ISO, tenacious battery, for me this is critical.

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Ogra, 2011-12-26
@Ogra

If you decide to take a whale, then take the Nikon D90, with an 18-105 lens .

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SFx, 2011-12-26
@SFx

A friend bought a Canon 600D with kit 18-135. I managed to feel it for a while, and so - the impressions are the most positive. only one problem: there is nothing to take a picture of. in fact, such a device is needed only for a vacation or some kind of trip / event. the rest of the time it lies on the shelf (and it’s good if it doesn’t gather dust in your purse).
At the price that my friend paid, I figured - you can hire a professional photographer, every time you just want good pictures - and it will be cheaper.
You can stuff a bunch of different interesting firmware into this canon, which will create very interesting effects, but in fact, if you are at work from 8 to 20 and work is not related to travel, the DSLR becomes unnecessary. I decided for myself that buying a DSLR is an investment in a shelf :)
But all the same, once you decide to buy, take a look at sony again, I know one professional photographer who prefers alphas to canon and nikon. says that he likes the color rendition of them more.
By the way, you will also need an expensive IPS monitor so that it is not excruciatingly painful for the spent orange pieces of paper due to light and color rendering curve ...

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Dmitry Bykadorov, 2011-12-25
@hudson

500D is pretty outdated. To begin with, I would suggest trying the 600D kit (one of the most important differences from the 500D is its larger sensor and swivel screen). What set of lenses you will need is impossible to understand without some experience. The first DSLR I took was the Olympus E420 double zoom kit (there were 2 kits 14-42 / 40-150mm) and, in general, I didn’t lose, because I simply wouldn’t appreciate the possibilities of interchangeable optics with a kit))) Then there was a 500D, too, with a whale, a fixed-portrait 85 1/8 and a zoom 70-200L were already purchased for it ... As a result, all the needs emerged gradually and largely relied on financial capabilities. Now I have 70-200 and 5D mark 2 left and I think this is not the end yet))

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mukizu, 2011-12-25
@mukizu

I didn’t hold the Canon EOS 500D in my hands, but somehow I strongly doubt that there are some features that are not in the D90 (I myself have a D80)
If there was no DSLR before, then most likely there is no experience with it and in general Photo. Buying a DSLR and shooting everything on a car is still strange :) So it makes sense to buy most likely a whale, and then decide which lens(s) you need.
It is worth considering that the canon's stabilizer is built into the carcass, if my memory serves me right. Nikon does not, i.e. if you want a stabilizer for Nikon, then you need to take lenses with the VR label.
I think the ideal option for a person who is just starting to work with a DSLR is a mid-level kit, bought from hand with low mileage.

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Akson87, 2011-12-25
@Akson87

Let's remember a little about Sony, look towards NEXs, they can be much lighter and more compact. It’s also worth looking at something like the A55, other manufacturers don’t have this, and after a soap dish you might like it. Well, from ordinary cameras, something like the A580 with a whale.
Now, by the way, B&H is selling a Sony A65 kit for $1000, and this is a completely different level with interesting goodies ...
In any case, after buying a kit or any zoom, it’s worth buying 50 / 1.8, so to speak, this is a must-have, since there is a lot of weight does not add, but the sea adds opportunities.
And you can also look at the boo, then for the same money you can buy both a carcass and a bunch of lenses.

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max_sokolov, 2011-12-25
@max_sokolov

Definitely, since you were impressed by the Canon EOS 500D, it is better to look at older models such as the 550D or 600D. Their prices are about the same, it is more expedient to take an older model.
I myself am the owner of the 550th. For beginners, that's it. In addition, these models can shoot very high-quality video. Some guys are doing great stuff .
And here you can read about them:
500D
550D
600D

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Dal, 2011-12-25
@Dal

We took Sonya 450 with two lenses in the kit. Enough to take pictures of the daughter and the cat. We decided on the amount, chose several models, wrote a question on a special forum. Based on the answers, I made a choice for myself, out of greed I bought a two-kit one.

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Maxim Shishkin, 2011-12-25
@lsoul

All the advice has already been given, I will separately note only about the whale lens. Be sure to take it with him. As a rule, the whale is most suitable for a beginner and is usually quite a good glass for the first time. In addition, Canon has a strange policy and the 18-55 kit is sold separately at exorbitant prices than in the kit.

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Sergey, 2011-12-25
@bondbig

If you want to shoot video with normal autofocus, then you need to look towards the Sony SLT line. I just had an A65, with two lenses, I took it for 35K in October. Classic DSLRs, due to their design features, do not know how to autofocus during the shooting process.

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GMM, 2011-12-25
@GMM

Once I bought a 500D with a whale. Gradually there was not enough zoom, then aperture. I bought 70-200, was impressed with the zoom and good bokeh. Over time, I saw photos from 50 1.4, I decided to take it too.
While I stopped, although I think to change the whale, for something better. Among the minuses, I can note the very cut video capabilities. Now I'm also experimenting with Magic Lantern firmware.
If I took it now, then probably 60D, or 550D. But for now, I don’t think I’ll upgrade, if I go straight to 5D.

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Konstantin Birzhakov, 2011-12-25
@KonstRuctor

As for the choice of brand - a philosophical question. How many years I have been doing photography, I still don’t understand which is cooler - Canon or Nikon :-) Seriously, both Canon 600D and Nikon D90 are an excellent choice, you won’t regret it.
As for the lens - for the first time, the capabilities of the whale will be enough for you. I myself am a fan of Canon, but Nikon also offers excellent whale lenses.
I did a test comparison of a kit Canon EF-S 18-55 with a stub and an EF 17-40L when I still had a 30. Good weather - and landscapes can only be distinguished with a magnifying glass, carefully looking at the edges of the frames (the whale blurs them more) and paying attention to the tree branches (the whale gives out HA more strongly and a little less sharp). The L-series optics are starting to really shine in more difficult shooting conditions.
Therefore, through the optics you will be able to understand exactly what kind of optics you really need and choose a lens.
I myself chose 17-40L for myself a long time ago and have been happy with this wonderful lens for many years, I am very pleased. By the way, it is quite affordable.
Successful shots!

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Sergey Drushchits, 2011-12-26
@Zlomorda

I took a Nikon D5100 + kit. For starters, this is enough. The camera is simple and understandable.

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debugx, 2011-12-26
@debugx

Understand one simple truth, no matter what camera you take, the quality of the picture will still depend on the lens by 90%. If you choose between budget DSLRs (up to $ 1000), then you can take any one that fits your hand better, sony, nikon, canon, it doesn’t matter. Now, if you plan to purchase a full-frame carcass in the future (from 65 tyr), then yes, you need to approach the choice of system more thoughtfully, because there they are already very different. If you are planning, tell me, I will try to describe approximately what is intended for what and what are the fundamental differences. Here, if you want to upgrade later. And if you just choose a camera for the family and do not plan to switch to a full frame in the future, then take any.
On lenses ... do not listen to those who say that you do not need to take with a whale lens. There is a price difference of 1500-2000 rubles! For two thousand you get an additional lens that you can use as a spare or as the main one for the first time. Separately, a whale lens costs 5-7 sput. Those. if you take it with the carcass, then you kind of get it at a very big discount. If anything, then you can easily sell it for the same two thousand. So it's definitely better to take a kit. In addition, for the first time, in order to feel the full power of a DSLR, and to understand that you did not spend your money in vain, I recommend taking a 50 / 1.8 lens. Well, this is such a standard glass, a classic of the genre. And in a couple of months you yourself will be rummaging around in everything, and what lenses you need next, you yourself will come up with :)

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gmist, 2011-12-26
@gmist

If this is the first purchase of a camera with an interchangeable lens, then definitely take a whale, the standard 18-55 is typical focal lengths for almost all manufacturers for crop matrices, which gives something about 24-70 in full-frame equivalent (alas, but the budget is not will pull out even a very shabby full-frame boo, if only very old and worn models). If possible, then you should take a double kit - 18-55 + 55-200 + the camera itself. Only later, six months later, it will be possible to draw a conclusion about your favorite focal lengths and think about buying fixes.
As a former owner of the NEX-5, I can say one thing - mirrorless cameras are good, even very good, but only until the moment when photography remains an episodic occupation. The fact is that later you will want to have lenses with a different focal length, for example 70-400, in order to arrange a “hunt”, or something like 85 / 1.4 - 135 / 1.8 in order to have a good portrait lens in your arsenal, or you will want a “wide” and here it turns out that an adapter for the A mount is needed, because there is no alternative among those manufactured for the E mount. Then it turns out that with this adapter + lens, the design resembles a bazooka and is extremely inconvenient to use - the lenses are heavy, outweighed, they strive to tear the mount out of the camera and it is almost impossible to hold this bundle with one hand. So if there's even the slightest chance that this will turn into something more than just shooting a couple of times a year, then you should not consider a mirrorless camera - the lens fleet is too small (so far it is small - Sony / Tamron are planning to significantly expand it in 2012, but what kind of glasses they will be, what pictures they will give is a question). Personally, I had the NEX-5 lying idle (when I bought it, I thought that it would be a great addition, a camera for every day, but in reality it turned out that it was more convenient to carry a thin dust- and moisture-proof TX-5 soap dish for every day) and I successfully gifted it acquaintances.

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airmile, 2011-12-26
@airmile

I started with a canon 350d + whale
over time, I realized that the whale was not enough, as I noted above in the kenon, the whales are so-so. so now I always advise that it would be as profitable and practical as possible to take only the body, somewhere on ebay, and buy a lens separately, look towards lenses from SIGMA 17-70mm price \ image quality is very good.
if you don’t need video (for example, I don’t shoot video), you can also look at previous models, since the matrix is ​​\u200b\u200bthe same everywhere APC-S and there will be no difference when shooting in RAW)

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Paul Denisevich, 2011-12-26
@deniamnet

Started with Nikon D5000 with whale 18-55 VR.
Then I bought 55-300 VR, a mega thing, though a little slow in some situations.
In the future I'm going to upgrade to Nikon D700.
In general, of course, it is worth mentioning why the camera is being bought, what you are going to shoot, and so on. Because shooting people in the studio and shooting nature in different conditions are completely different things.

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Igor, 2011-12-25
@admhome

Canon 450D - I bought it used, now I only choose optics, because this SLR is enough for me a little more than completely.

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png, 2011-12-26
@png

The Canon 600D was already advised above ; I am very pleased with
the Canon 600D .
you can take it with the 135th lens .
Such a lens separately costs twice as much. So it turned out even to save a little ...

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