How promising is WP?

DarthRamone2012-06-02 15:49:27

Windows phone

DarthRamone, 2012-06-02 15:49:27

I apologize in advance if this question seems a bit hackneyed, now this question has become quite acute for me. Actually:
What are the prospects for Windows Phone in your opinion?
I plan to buy some kind of smartphone in order to do software development, so there is no limit to my throwing between an iPhone, a lumiya 900 and some kind of cgs 2/3.
What do you think is the future of android and windows phone? Given the "architectural features" of the android, is there a chance that in the future it will be completely shoveled, and as a result there will be a temporary slack in this OS and the win phone will capture the market? I don’t say anything about iOS, because everything seems to be clear with it, a stable OS and all that. In general, I would like to hear the opinions of developers about all three platforms in order to get some idea about them.

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miguelle74, 2012-06-02
@miguelle74

My subjective opinion, voiced many times on Habré. The prospects for WP are huge. In addition to the first answer, one should not lose sight of the fact that Microsoft Windows has become the de facto standard in much of the corporate segment. After updating Windows to 8, the Metro style (some of the jokes from it have already begun to pull other OSes) will become more familiar to users, which will have a positive effect on WP.
We write for both Android and WP. Working with WP is much more pleasant. The tools are great, and there are a lot of options to use them for free.

Oleg Karnaukhov, 2012-06-02
@BupycNet

I don't think WP will take off. It was iOS that made users realize that touch phones are convenient. Nokia, having a large audience of users, could not accustom them to the new symbian touchscreen. The remaining market for those who do not like iOS, but need a touch-sensitive convenient phone with games, convenient browsing communication, etc., is occupied by Android. And successfully established itself on it. Manufacturers will primarily remain on android, tk. using it, Google does not require anything in return, moreover, the manufacturers themselves agree on the work of the market, etc. because it's an axis fig. At the same time, wp has a lot of restrictions in terms of hardware and software. That is, it will not work to release a 5-inch smartphone on wp7, with a tegra 3 processor, a proprietary shell and additional camera features.
What's more, I don't think Microsoft will let Nokia compete. oh, in the future we will probably get a device from one manufacturer. Moreover, wp is touch-oriented, win8 on the desktop will still not be popular in finger control (half of the software with small buttons, half with huge ones, plus on a stationary device with a 30-inch monitor it will be inconvenient to control the second half of the software) as a result, you will always have to calculate, or do it under arm, that is, wp and win8 tablets. But at the same time, receive complaints that it does not start on intel, or cut for smartphones, tablets, desktops while building crutches for the mouse. Microsoft severely chopped programs. Now the metro can be launched, of course, on all platforms, but it’s inconvenient to steer with the mouse, the usual windows on the desktop and tablets (it’s already uncomfortable with a finger here). And plus 2 different processor architectures.
Why does the user need so much trouble if you can use Android and iOS. And despite the fact that the android is sawn by Intel on x86, I would rather ignore these urges, because. this will give rise to a lot of incompatibilities when working with native software. And x86 on mobile devices is far behind. While Intel sawed its percent, 4 nuclear processors came out, which eat several times less than Intel. And what to do with a bunch of games released during this time for android?
In short, wp is very late and has nowhere to wedge in, it still has only a few versions, and everything is already fragmented to the last screw. Of course, you can write in .NET, but when you write for Android and iOS, and even under WP, I don’t think that the game engine will be on .NET.

Nikolai Turnaviotov, 2012-06-02
@foxmuldercp

I used android, played with it with friends - and when I have it - corporate, and to me, as a very advanced end user, android seems dull, illogical, and resource-intensive device - I understand why everyone chooses iPhones - Played for several days, left only Skype, corporate and personal mail and turned off all communications. I don’t want a personal android for myself, and I’m glad that I bought myself a logical, simple and living at least 2 full days of lumia 800, which works, doesn’t slow down, hung twice on mp3 in a month and a half, and in which I’m sure that in six months on it will be updated, in contrast to the android, which must be unlocked and there are no updates for which after 3 months and will not be. I will no longer recommend Android to all my friends, and I recommend choosing between iPhones and Winphone. By the way, write in .

XimikS, 2012-06-02
@XimikS

Offhand:
1) C# - really cool + VS + ReSharper - few will argue with such a set
2) Possibility of a single core of WP 8 and Win 8
3) Still a small application market
4) Unusual purely digital metro interface, perhaps it will be the reason for success, and perhaps showed up too early.
5) .NET is quite popular

Iliapan, 2012-06-02
@Iliapan

If you want to be in demand as a programmer, learn all the platforms little by little. You can start with WP, then if you can master Mono Touch, you can write for all platforms.
Good luck!

Lonkly, 2012-06-03
@Lonkly

Well, what can I say. I am writing under WP7. There are 2 things. Writing - I won’t say that, it’s just a pleasure ... Some kind of darkness, and not KFOR, which, of course, cannot be said about .NET as such.
The device is just great. The best phone I've probably never seen anywhere. The Lumia 800 (or 900) is a masterpiece.
WP7 as a system with a METRO interface is quite good.
Small app market. Many applications are riveted in any way and by anyone, there are crashing and looping applications. In general, the situation resembles an android at the beginning of development. Will Microsoft be able to spin the centrifuge to such an extent? And here is Khz.

garfik, 2012-06-03
@garfik

Many users don’t want to sometimes spend many days on setting up their phone and just want it to be beautiful, with a smooth interface, work for a long time, not freeze, not buggy, and that it should be out of the box (!). WP7 does a great job of this, as does the iPhone, but the iPhone is more expensive. More and more in a friend’s store I hear talk about WP7 and the interest of ordinary buyers ... they pass by, they see an unusual interface ... they see how cool it works and buy :) And if the seller also pushes a person to a new product, they almost always take it.
There are still few applications - yes. Quality is even less. This is a huge plus for a developer. It's really fun to develop. Plus, Win8 is on the way and I think experience in Metro applications will not be superfluous for you :)

Funcraft, 2012-06-04
@Funcraft

If you are very interested, look at the latest DevCon conf on the Internet - they talked a lot about WP and the Metro style. It is clear that “on the good side”, but I personally remember the schedule of the mobile device market. The main comparison goes, as one would expect, with adnroid. The huge share of this OS is shown, but the important thing from the whole graph is the growth rate of the market share. So, WP has a very good pace, and Android has already slowed down its fast run.
WP is a very young OS, but I personally see it as promising.
Now there are a lot of different tools for developing under WP, guides and tips in bulk as well.
I myself have recently written in PHP, but initially I was a VC ++ .NET proger, so it’s much more pleasant for me to write in sharp under WP than in Java, which I (and many of my friends who even specialize in Java) associate exclusively with with "memory leak".
And Microsoft has always been known for its docks (show me something better than MSDN) and tools that greatly simplify (although sometimes pervert) the work of a developer.
ps
From the user side:
1. Dad had an iPhone (still the first) - I often took it and played. Personally, the iPhone interface is absolutely not convenient for me, this unlocking of them pissed me off (then I just didn’t know the perversions that are on the android). Therefore, I immediately decided that I would not take an iPhone for myself.
2. A friend works at Sony, she constantly played android. He knows all his pluses, pluses and charms.
She gave me a phone with an android for a month, to play around, etc. Brakes when sliding (at first I thought that this was a problem with a specific phone, but then I met information on the Internet that this was an android trouble), and so on and so forth, which disappointed me. The only thing that was convenient for me personally was a good integration with Google services.
3. Finally got Mozart (with WP7). Probably, my train of thought is so arranged that everything was immediately intuitively clear and convenient for me. I am still happy. I look at the fragmentation of Android versions and the same for iOS with WP7 - the latter have practically no such problem.
The only thing that killed me in a negative way in Wp7 is the Zune. Some kind of cunning synchronization that arbitrarily downloads music and videos to the phone that it finds on the computer.
ps sorry that's a lot.

LimeOrange, 2012-06-04
@LimeOrange

It seems to me that one of the most valuable advantages of WP is the strict standardization and requirements for hardware, including screen resolution.
Thanks to this, the system works equally fast on all devices (WP7 is the fastest and most responsive axis on any smartphone with it on board that I have had the opportunity to try. It works / responds even faster than iOS on the iPhone 4S). And it also greatly reduces the fragmentation and variety of devices that are now slowly but surely killing android.
So when you create an application for WP7, you can be pretty sure that it will work the same way on almost all WP7 devices.
Well, just like a breath of fresh air, this axis is good, something new, not worn out, and at the same time quite pleasant. :)

gleb_kudr, 2012-06-04
@gleb_kudr

Try the tools of each platform in the emulator and you already have a good idea about it. Let's say, for me, android is some kind of eternal darkness, with all their platforms, changes in the basic functionality in releases and general development hemorrhoids. WP after that is just a breath of fresh air.

Krovosos, 2012-06-04
@Krovosos

WP is definitely promising.
Here the thing is - under the iPhone, iPad, you can _already_ be engaged in development. Everything is already there - tools, market, consumers, etc.
Under WP, this will also, for sure, be, but when? The difference is in timing.
Let's say in six months you have mastered the tools and released software for WP.
It is so good that one and a half users put it, and one of them even paid.
And fse.
;-)