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torsion2011-02-18 13:08:27
IT education
torsion, 2011-02-18 13:08:27

How much did the university give you knowledge?

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Rulin, 2011-02-19
@Rulin

Russian universities provide the best self-education in the world

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Vas3K, 2011-02-18
@Vas3K

Three liters!
Strange question, impossible to answer. Everyone got as much as they wanted. Someone read books at the same time and tried everything in practice, thought about how to apply it in their work, while others, on the contrary, set themselves the goal of “just to pass”, so they crammed the basic formulas. Moreover, both of them are in my group.
PS: Well, I finished it and just noticed that I was answering a friend from the university. Don't you like it? What specialty are you, I forgot. Personally, I really got a lot even for half of the university, even though I knew a lot, but I can’t structure it according to the most.

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Igor Petrov, 2011-02-18
@KriegeR

As my teacher said:
"... in this almshouse you will not be taught specific knowledge. Here you are taught to learn. And then you yourself will receive knowledge as needed ..." (c)
And it's true, who studied well in the first two- in three courses, he continues to study for good grades, even if they also “score” in pairs;)
Just such subjects as matan, high school, physics - develop intellectual horizons and teach you to think. Other subjects, such as TOE or TAU, teach how to achieve a goal / get a desired result. Well, the third category of subjects, programming or signal modulation, for example, makes a brief excursion into what young students are not yet familiar with.
Hence the conclusion that even if you know the program of the university by 100%, then in a real job you may never come across your area of ​​​​knowledge. Everything is decided by your "preparedness" and "ability to cope with difficulties." IMHO

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Dimusik, 2011-02-19
@Dimusik

The uni gave a lot of knowledge, no doubt.
Now I know how to get drunk with vodka, how fun it is to sit in a group of 27 people and study the structure of a decade-step automatic telephone exchange, how tearing RADAN beeps (whoever saw it knows), and how fun it must have been to study in the sixties.
Only now I’m sitting and thinking, why the hell did I need this RADAN?
But in principle there was something useful (calculation of coverage areas, design), the question is that it could be put in one year, and not drag out a five-year period.
In the end, the knowledge gained was not useful, I work not in my specialty.
I think this: the maximum that a university can give is the basics, and it also instills the ability to self-educate, resourcefulness and ingenuity. This is a big plus, but in no case should a university be regarded as a guarantor of knowledge.

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tsiguleva, 2011-02-19
@tsiguleva

The university gave me not so much knowledge as taught me to think in the right direction.

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Vladimir Chernyshev, 2011-02-18
@VolCh

Approximately 7.1428571% :)
How much of this knowledge was really useful, I find it difficult to say objectively, but subjectively even less and I'm not even talking about "humanitarian" subjects such as psychology, sociology, ecology, history or physical education.

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Gibbzy, 2011-02-19
@gibbzy

The university taught me the most important thing in this life.
When I tried to learn the matan course in 2 days, I really regretted that I didn’t do it on time, I passed the matan 5 times.
Now I try to do everything on time.
The university also taught me how to overcome obstacles, be patient and be able to learn.
Yes, you throw some knowledge there.
Do you know why the students of the Zadrost Mekhmat are valued? Because they were able to finish it, and not because they have some kind of super knowledge, super knowledge is obtained by scientists, not students.
The university, like the army, is a school of life no more no less. Someone gives a matan by memorization, someone passes it somehow, and someone passes it with the help of bribes or some other methods, but the result is always the same - these people passed the matan and received a diploma.
You can say those who passed the matan without learning it are not cool, but you broste, we live in Russia.

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ainu, 2011-02-19
@ainu

2-3%

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pentarh, 2011-02-19
@pentarh

Not how much the uni gave, but how much I took. Lot. Who seeks - he will find.

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aywengo, 2011-02-19
@aywengo

99%
Taught me to spin, choose, prioritize, be on time (albeit not always), and most importantly, be sociable. Everything that I have achieved now in my professional career would be impossible without friends and personal qualities that I acquired at the university!

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loat, 2011-02-19
@loat

The university gives as much as you can take.

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holyorb2, 2011-02-18
@holyorb2

20% :)
but here the question is not in knowledge, but in confidence that there is knowledge or knowledge of the place where to look for knowledge

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darkslesh, 2011-02-18
@darkslesh

Knowledge gives experience, and universities provide only the initial base for their accumulation. And as you dispose of this base, it will be so. If universities would provide as much knowledge as is enough to be a qualified specialist in the field of study, then the term of study would be at least 10-15 years.
Personally, I can say that the university gave enough (90%) initial information to further successfully develop in the field in which I studied.

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VlK, 2011-02-18
@VlK

Perhaps the general course was used to the fullest. Matan, applied branches of mathematics, physics, TOE, blah blah blah - all this served and serves me as an excellent base until now. Special senior subjects - there are some doubts there, but this is due to a change in specialty.
By the way, I'm a programmer. I started studying energy.
My estimate is 30% for the general course, 20% for special courses. 30% were not useful due to the change of specialty in senior courses. The remaining extra 20% are the same controversial humanitarian subjects plus chemistry.
Total, 50/50.
However, most of the “superfluous” subjects taught me to quickly absorb information, work with it, and apply it in tasks, which is also useful. There was, let's say, an understanding of the process of self-learning; not general words, but taking into account personal characteristics.

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SkyKos, 2011-02-19
@SkyKos

I learned how to finish things, search for information (including not only in Google), a little bit of social engineering when passing labs and exams, and, as already mentioned above, I learned to learn. On the other hand, I regret that I did not write my own databases / compilers, etc., which is what they do in many non-our universities in IT specialties. And I also don’t like that all the courses to study are hardwired into the schedule and that I can’t choose the most interesting ones for me. So it looks like it missed out on a lot.

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Dmitry Sidorov, 2011-02-19
@Doomsday_nxt

I don’t know how to evaluate it ... But the university didn’t give me knowledge directly ... But it gave me a few clues - where to dig to get additional knowledge ...
Of course, I don’t consider the knowledge really gained, which, after passing the test / exam, was deleted from memory as unnecessary ...

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ivanr, 2011-02-19
@ivanr

Gave a lot of knowledge, but I'm not sure if I use it now.
But the experience of life and good acquaintances is a lot and I now use them very much :)

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Vertex, 2011-02-19
@Vertex

The maximum amount of training. Students are prepared for the harsh reality of life in Our countries. From the first days you will be taught to give bribes, to smuggle unnecessary training manuals under the guise of a “commodity” without which you will not be able to continue “training”, they will use you as a free labor force and a personal wallet.
Greetings to the law faculty of the University. Mechnikov in Odessa. We love, we honor, we remember, but we try to forget ...)

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gro, 2011-02-19
@gro

As a percentage of what knowledge? From everyone, like the grass is green, and the vodka is bitter?

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ForCeFantoM, 2011-02-19
@ForCeFantoM

I have been working in my specialty since the second year… I got 20 percent of real knowledge, the rest is unnecessary rubbish that did not remain in my head. But the main thing for which I am grateful to the university is that it set the direction where the necessary knowledge can be quickly and efficiently obtained if necessary. In education, there are very few living examples of what a person will encounter at work and often this is very outdated information.

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Ivan Klimchuk, 2011-02-20
@Alroniks

I don’t know where anyone and how he studied, it’s already how lucky or unlucky someone is. But I work partly in my specialty and the university gave me 40-50% percent knowledge of commercials - just what is connected with the specialty and a little general knowledge (there is all sorts of philosophy, etc.).
In general terms: at the university they taught programming, oddly enough. I have gained experience myself. But as practice shows, much that was given at the university becomes in demand over time.

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Vladislav Ross, 2011-02-20
@gag_fenix

Alas, it is difficult for an applicant to navigate, especially among universities of the “middle peasants”. Even in a normal university there can be a useless department.
Moreover, the competition for a specialty is not an indicator at all, because. it reflects the popularity of the specialty, the ability of the department to promote itself at the open day of itede. You will learn how to teach at the department only in the third year, when it will be difficult to transfer.
It is high time to make a website to help applicants, where graduates would write reviews about the university.

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