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Kolya2020-06-21 20:55:16
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Kolya, 2020-06-21 20:55:16

How do you like the idea to raise Russian electronics from its knees?

As you know, Russia does not stand out much in the electronics market.
I thought a little about which train we still have time to jump on with the support of the state.
The idea of ​​building a mid-range microcontroller system with flexible configurable peripherals arose. Here's why:
Today there are tons of all kinds of MK stuffed with different peripherals - but, sometimes, among all this it is difficult to choose the right one for peripheral devices - either you need to squirm in 6 layers in the wiring, or unused blocks remain, or vice versa there are not enough blocks ( for example, you need 5 UARTs, 2 SPIs, and as luck would have it, 1 UART / SPI are combined. Or something like that)
So. Why not create such a universal microcontroller, which will have one common core and a configurable peripheral block on the FPGA. And the necessary blocks will be purchased from the manufacturer as IP. Well, or become a community. Any transceiver. Any interfaces. And most importantly, Errata will be minimal. Any jamb of iron is corrected by reconfiguring logic.

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Nobody seems to have produced anything like this yet (Microchip, but there is something else. FPGA with built-in ARM, the same seems to be wrong).
How do you like the idea? What niche can it occupy?

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Kolya, 2020-06-23
Pechenyushkin @shnegs

In general, the essence is clear. Scoop, hello! No one is going to "patent" and "cut the budget" anything. I just asked to evaluate the idea, and the haters came running ... Well, sit in your swamps further.

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Sergey Karbivnichy, 2020-06-21
@hottabxp

Do you want to bite off a piece of cutting the budget for yourself) I see that many people in your country do this, and no one cares. So you have a chance :)
PS: I took my conclusions not from the ceiling, but from habra - As a daughter of Rostec, who sold tens of thousands of cameras ...

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Sergey Pankov, 2020-06-21
@trapwalker

How do you like the idea of ​​\u200b\u200braising Russian electronics from its knees?

The idea looks fresh and unexpected. How no one has yet guessed to do this (raise from their knees) - I'll never know. The idea really floats on the surface. Take - I do not want!
But seriously, it seems to me that it makes sense to get involved in such an ambitious project if you have vast experience in developing and bringing your own microcontrollers, integrated chips to the finished product ... Well, this is a logistical hell, as it seems to me from the height of my amateurish bell towers.
Sounds like a very naive question on this resource. Maybe in your cool portfolio this question would no longer sound like this, but you didn’t say anything about it here. There are so many details here that you can immediately see: the project has been worked out "deep enough" to look for like-minded people.
Forgive me for my undisguised sarcasm and sometimes rather malicious irony.
I'm just offended for the state, and here you are talking like you're joking.

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CityCat4, 2020-06-22
@CityCat4

And of course, again, first we "patent the idea", then "we are looking for like-minded people who are ready to work for a share of the profits (that is, for free)", then "we are looking for understanding sponsors"? Are you going to compete with the Chinese, or what?

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VT100, 2020-06-21
@VT100

Superficiality. Firstly - who needs him, the next 15th from the KSKTSD comic? There is no market - there is no circulation - the cost price flies into the clouds.
Secondly, its "iron infrastructure". I doubt that it is possible to buy transistors-diodes and resistors-capacitors from our manufacturers on reasonable terms. Not to mention the IC of a low degree of integration.
Etc.

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Victor P., 2020-10-07
@Jeer

Hey, fuck the haters.
Somehow I stumbled upon an ampere, they filed their product, iskra-js . The point is that they took the open source espruino (arduino on js). It's been very well edited. They took part of the ready-made libraries, many have already been cut in their own way. They have a convenient js console in which you can write commands in real time and they are executed on a spark - this is much more convenient than uploading code back and forth like in arduino. Of course, the price of their product is higher than that of arduino.
Most importantly, they made arduino-compatible shields, that is, any crap (sensor) for arduino from aliexpress is suitable for spark. Even more than that, there are power buns there, you can work on the same board with both 2.1 and 5 volts.
Regarding the main question, "electronics in Russia" - it seems that the production of these boards was established near St. Petersburg, but dig this story deeper, I'm not sure.
Why am I even telling you all this. The guys are cool, the idea is cool, they PR as best they can without billions of dollars of budgets, but their turnover is far from global, conditionally, this is one small store. In this example, "raising Russian electronics from its knees" sounds a little pathetic, perhaps hence the haters) and yes, depending on their development, this topic is really interesting to a small number of people, and the lack of a market has a very detrimental effect on business

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