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Itvanya2014-02-16 22:17:16
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Itvanya, 2014-02-16 22:17:16

How and what is the fastest way to start making money on programming / web programming?

Hi guys! Thanks in advance to all those who will spend a minute of their time on this question.
I am 19, student. I started to study web programming, but at the moment I only have knowledge on the front-end (html, css, js) + drawing in fsh, in a couple of days I start backing (I think between python, ruby ​​and puff, I think that the latter is more likely) .
I tried to program in #C and C++ - I also liked it wildly, but I decided that you can start earning faster on web programming, and it seems like more work.
Now I am studying in the penultimate course of a bachelor's degree in economics, but, to my great regret, I see absolutely no prospects here: there is no work, no money, no time. Fortunately, I know well the basic course of matan (difuras, series, all integrals, limits, derivatives, etc.), rulers, discretes, which, most likely, is absolutely not needed on the web. And, to be honest, I never thought that I would be “hooked” by some business, but, having tried programming and typesetting at the initial level, I really liked even the process itself, not to mention the result.
I really want to reach a stable income of twenty thousand in the near future and I understand that for this you need to work a lot. Therefore, I want to ask you guys, where is it better to start and how to move in order to reach a stable freelance income and how long did it take you?

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CAMOKPYT, 2014-02-17
@Itvanya

Forget about freelancing, no matter how much they talk about it, this is a CHEAP labor exchange with all the ensuing consequences in the form of scam, low salary, boring work, people go there with serious problems like the inability to move to the city, sociopaths, disabilities, "refined personality" , freelancing is almost always a necessary measure. In general, freelancing and stable income are incompatible concepts, simply because freelancing implies a constant search for small work, no customer will ever give a big serious project to a freelancer, because this is a big responsibility, look at the neighboring questions, guys with rates of 150 bucks per hour work 10 hours a month , and the rest of the time they are looking for orders, and these are people with experience and a portfolio + excellent English. Starting a career with freelancing is a 100% guarantee that, everything that can be done wrong (technical side) will be done wrong, because it works, the deadline is yesterday, and there is no one to suggest or review the code, no books will help here, there will be no choice, you either read or work. So I do not advise you to get involved in this topic. It is better to start work in an office under strict supervision. And of course, html + css + js is not enough, you need to know more about programming things like version control systems, bug trackers, several ide / text editors, if this is a web, you almost certainly need to have an idea about http / https, OOP, maybe sql. Not that for 20k a month you need to know all this perfectly, but at least have an idea so as not to be distracted. Here's to no books will help here, there will be no choice, you either read or work. So I do not advise you to get involved in this topic. It is better to start work in an office under strict supervision. And of course, html + css + js is not enough, you need to know more about programming things like version control systems, bug trackers, several ide / text editors, if this is a web, you almost certainly need to have an idea about http / https, OOP, maybe sql. Not that for 20k a month you need to know all this perfectly, but at least have an idea so as not to be distracted. Here's to no books will help here, there will be no choice, you either read or work. So I do not advise you to get involved in this topic. It is better to start work in an office under strict supervision. And of course, html + css + js is not enough, you need to know more about programming things like version control systems, bug trackers, several ide / text editors, if this is a web, you almost certainly need to have an idea about http / https, OOP, maybe sql. Not that for 20k a month you need to know all this perfectly, but at least have an idea so as not to be distracted. Here's to several ide/ text editors, if it's a web it's almost guaranteed to have some understanding of http/https, OOP, maybe sql. Not that for 20k a month you need to know all this perfectly, but at least have an idea so as not to be distracted. Here's to several ide/ text editors, if it's a web it's almost guaranteed to have some understanding of http/https, OOP, maybe sql. Not that for 20k a month you need to know all this perfectly, but at least have an idea so as not to be distracted. Here's tofrontend . For a big guarantee of a device for work, as already mentioned above, it is better to make a website for yourself, or even better, make a small portfolio and put it on github, it is now very fashionable. It will take 1-2 months to study all of the above if you sit for 8-4 hours a day approximately, your site is about a week to develop a business card and another week to lick it, but it's worth it, and in the process of finding a job, you can also go to github on throw a little, although it is unlikely to get a lot. Good luck.

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Rishat Kadyrov, 2014-02-16
@laska

20,000 is relatively small, you can reach them right away. I started with a web studio, no regrets. It instills some useful skills that are much more difficult to get on freelance. Although, depending on which web studio.
Suddenly, but necessary. I regularly come across such tasks. I write in the most "bydlokodovy" php.

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OnYourLips, 2014-02-16
@OnYourLips

Concerning increase in incomes:
To the Java office.
Freelance - Rails.
And there and there - PHP.

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FoxInSox, 2014-02-16
@FoxInSox

Junior freelancers do not exist in nature. Therefore, look for a job in the office for food. How soon you will receive 20 thousand in your hands depends on you and your employer.

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Sergey750il, 2014-02-17
@Sergey750il

I live in Tashkent. WEB studios as such are not here, and if there are, only those that stamp HS on templates. You will not get experience in them, and even more so money. Therefore, freelancing is the only way out for me.

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Andrey Degtyaruk, 2014-02-20
@hlogeon

I live in Tashkent. WEB studios as such are not here, and if there are, only those that stamp HS on templates. You will not get experience in them, and even more so money. Therefore, freelancing is the only way out for me.

In general, I'm amazed why so much is said about web studios? A more boring job, in my opinion, is simply not to be found. Do you really think that the web is just creating websites? But what about the banking sector? Enterprise web applications that are generally not trusted by web studios? In such places you will get much more experience, useful practical skills and quickly reach a good salary level. About freelancing, as already mentioned above, it is better to forget. Especially if you want to become a really good specialist.
A little about myself: at the age of 20, I got my first job. It was an internship in a small office in our city for 15,000 \ months. on your hands. Since that time (only a year) I have changed 3 jobs and my salary has grown indecently along with the position. I got connections and have 2 more permanent remote jobs. That is, not on a project-by-project basis, but constantly. Thus, having 3 jobs, 2 of which I am fully official with all the social benefits such as VMI, I can earn 5 times more than even a very good freelancer. Yesterday I celebrated exactly one year since my first working day in my life. I work as a senior programmer, tech. Lead and system architect.

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neo44, 2020-06-05
@neo44

How I found remote work. I came from the factory, dropped everything and registered on a miracle free freelance site https://myjob.asia/ru/, where you can respond to any projects. So from the first time I worked so simply answering projects and working as a laborer at the factory. And then it went off and on and right now I'm already earning $ 100 - 300 a month and I don't blow my mustache. Try it and you will too)

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