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Vladislav Radzimovsky2014-11-30 13:29:16
Programming
Vladislav Radzimovsky, 2014-11-30 13:29:16

Does a programmer need official employment now?

Hello! Recently, I began to be interested in this question, but is it necessary for programmers in our time? And do firms consider non-official seniority as seniority? Or do you need a job?
Thanks in advance for your replies.

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Ali Aliyev, 2014-12-01
@ali_aliev

I don't understand people who are already thinking about retirement. It turns out that we work, work hard for the sake of not dying of hunger later in old age (so to speak, before death :)))? You need to work for pleasure, otherwise work is not work. I propose the following option: 1) we save money from several large orders 2) we do something (well, at least something), even if it’s not related to IT, which will bring a constant stable income (even if it’s 30 rubles a month. It doesn’t matter what: a store, an apartment somewhere outside the city for rent) 3) quietly doing our job. Something like this :)
PS labor, diploma and other bureaucracy is all garbage. a foreign customer does not care if you have a diploma, the main thing is that the project be delivered on time. what you need for this 1) knowledge of English (much easier than getting a diploma, isn't it?) 2) cv, blog in English (then the customer will know that you are interested in your work) 3) open source commits on github. then you will be noticed

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Ivan, 2014-11-30
@LiguidCool

Do you plan to die young? Or hope for grandchildren? If so, then employment is a formality.

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Sergey, 2014-11-30
Protko @Fesor

Nobody cares about the labor, the diploma, in general, everything if you are a good specialist. The only ones who do not care about whether you officially work or not are the tax office. So register as an individual entrepreneur or private enterprise and do business. Officially. With contracts and other things.

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xmoonlight, 2014-11-30
@xmoonlight

Two factors to be interesting to the employer:
1. Acquaintances and recommendations of significant people to your future employer.
2. Your skill / experience (+ projects: applications / repository, etc.) and public history of communication on the Internet (this is much better than a portfolio on freelance sites and labor).

And do firms consider non-official experience as experience
- so far, unfortunately, only a few .... It is
much more profitable to work for yourself (as Sergei Protko already said ) and constantly improve in technology, creating your own instrument of permanent income, independent of external factors in the real world.

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FoxInSox, 2014-11-30
@FoxInSox

All those who answered forgot about the bureaucratic realities that cannot be avoided:
1. An income statement is required in many banks. If you want to buy a car or take out a loan for anything else, then personal income tax2 will be required.
2. When obtaining visas, some consulates ask for proof of your ability to pay, also in the form of personal income tax2.
3. There are cases when the state returns you the tax paid by your employer. For example, this is buying an apartment or paying for studies.
4. Plus the obligations of the employer: if the staff is reduced, for example, the employer will have to double your salary.
There must be something else. In any case, employment is a plus, not a minus.

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Puma Thailand, 2014-11-30
@opium

It was never necessary for hiring, experience is such a thing for a pension and not for a programmer

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Alexey Nikolaev, 2014-12-01
@Heian

More necessary than not. Firstly, working in a company is always more money than working for yourself, and almost always faster development in a prof. plan. And secondly, social the package and various privileges that official employment gives (as already mentioned above) will not be superfluous.

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